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72t from 401(k) with existing loan  


tyroneshu
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I just retired from my job in October and plan on doing a Sepp plan in December when my company stock is liqudated in my 401k.

I also have a loan that I have to pay back in the amount of 11287.68. Can I take the money directly out of the 401k and pay off the loan with a 10 percent penalty and then start the sepp plan?  Also since they only liqudate stock once a quarter I will get the next stock bump/decline in December.  Can I start a plan before the stock liquadation or will I have to wait until after ?

 

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dlzallestaxes@msn.com
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I would wait for the next liquidation, pay off the loan, and then start the SEPP 72-T. Since you retired in October, I would expect that you have significant income already in 2019. I guess that you want/need the ANNUAL total distribution in December, in addition to the annual distribution in 2020, etc., despite the high tax bill for 2019, rather than waiting until Jan 2020 to take the annual distribution when you will be in a lower tax bracket. I would have your tax professional run both options for you.

Do you expect to not work for the next 11 years ? If so, you might also look at doing an electronic TRANSFER of your 401-K (after repaying the loan) to a TRADITIONAL IRA. Then in 2020 you can start to take distributions of $ 12,000 a year with -0- income tax because of the $ 12,000 standard deduction, and pay only the 10% penalty of $ 1,200. 

Also, look into other exceptions that you might qualify for, especially medical insurance if you will be collecting Unemployment for at least 12 weeks, or medical expenses in excess of 10% of your AGI.

Finally, if you are working for a profitable company, check into the Special IRS provisions for NUA (Net Unrealized Appreciation) in company stock, which could save you a lot of taxes.

All of these options should be considered before starting a SEPP 72-T plan.

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Tracy
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Tyroneshu, I created a new thread for your questions so they're no longer hidden under the "template". Let me know if you have any trouble accessing or viewing the posts.

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